[PD] osx pduino: nothing works

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at at.or.at
Wed Mar 10 18:03:27 CET 2010

Keep in mind this is beta software so you were just a beta tester.  It  
would be great to incorporate your experience into the next release.

Perhaps the best way to support the ATMEGA8 is to post a firmware for  
it somewhere, like StandardFirmataATMEGA8.  It would just be  
OldStandardFirmata/StandardFirmataV2_0 renamed to  
StandardFirmataATMEGA8 and with the baud rate of 57600.

What is only a question of the ATMEGA8? Or where there other problems?


On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Derek Holzer wrote:

> Hi HC,
> thanks for clarification. I will try to find some time to stick it  
> in the FLOSS Manual Pduino chapters later on. I did get the ATMEGA8s  
> running with the new baudrate, now I have a problem with the  
> ATMEG328 but I will deal with that tomorrow.
> I tried to get all 12 students using same versions of everything but  
> you know how hard that can be. What was supposed to be a 10 minute  
> installation took the entire afternoon, along with questions about  
> motors, circuits, mechanics and everything else in the middle of  
> debugging. Not an optimal moment for concentration to fix a  
> glitch... maybe I will stick to hardware-only workshops from now on,  
> computers are only good for causing ulcers and hairloss!
> I landed here Sunday and started the workshop the next morning so I  
> had no time to investigate what hardware the school had. I told them  
> they should upgrade the ATMEGAs they have but you know how long that  
> takes at any kind of institution ;-)
> Best from Helsinki!
> D.
> Quoting Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>:
>> On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Derek Holzer wrote:
>>> List goofballs aside, I think it would be good to clarify all this  
>>> stuff.
>>> The split between the things available on HCs site and what comes   
>>> with Arduino is quite confusing. I was only using the ones from  
>>> HC  to keep the versions matching.
>> No argument here, its just a matter of finding the time to do it.   
>> With
>> Firmata 2.1 the baudrate should be totally stable (that's the big
>> change between 2.0 and 2.1), and further updates shouldn't cause
>> issues.  I'm working on finalizing the Pduino 0.5 release.
>>> The Arduino-provided Firmata stuff does not contain the Pd  
>>> objects  themselves, and if the Pd objects must match certain  
>>> Firmata then  it would be good to make a note of that somewhere...  
>>> maybe on the  site where the Pd stuff is downloaded?
>> For the latest Pduino, either use the included one, or the one in
>> Arduino 0018.
>>> And besides that, if some Firmata says it supports ATMEGA8 then I   
>>> believe what it says. I spent half of yesterday smashing my face   
>>> against the keyboards of 12 students, trying to teach them   
>>> something that was broken, and the reason it was broken was not   
>>> documented. So yes I get a bit cranky!
>> Firmata is an Arduino library which fully supports the ATMEGA8.
>> StandardFirmata is a firmware that uses the Firmata library that is  
>> too
>> big for the ATMEGA8.  As a teacher, I would highly recommend avoiding
>> the ATMEGA8, they are not well supported by the Arduino community.
>> .hc
>>> Peace out dudes,
>>> D.
>>>> 2010/3/10 Derek Holzer <derek at umatic.nl>
>>>>> Where do I find the matching Pd Firmata objects for the Firmata  
>>>>> in Arduino
>>>>> 18 then?
>>>>> Maybe all of this could be a bit better documented? ;-)
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.


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