[PD] nusmuk-audio / mixer aesthetics..

colet.patrice at free.fr colet.patrice at free.fr
Sun Apr 25 06:56:46 CEST 2010

 Hello, there are a lot of externals in this project, too much to work everywhere,
 also an abs would be interesting.

the abstration would contain all the gop stuff and audio routing of one track,
 and it's two arguments would be audio receiver/emitters variables for throw/catching signal

then the abs could be dynamicaly created for building a mixer, also dynamical routing could be done with receiver variable.

----- "servando barreiro" <servandisco at yahoo.es> a écrit :

> Hi
> I haven´t invented anything but I want to share this:
> http://servandobarreiro.es/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/mix_ser.png
> (just th image)
> It´s quite simple, but I find it useful for live performing
> situations.. (and Iike that kind of aesthetic..) maybe somebody wants
> to improve it..
> I was thinking about adding a vu-meter per channel but at the moment,
> I manage ok with just two into the master section (still in
> progress..). In this case, the dac~ object it´s inside the mixer.
> http://minitronics.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/trondheim-minimixerpd.zip
> enjoy..
> hello Roman
> I've tried Mx everytime I used netpd, so could tell what doesn't meet
> my criteria...
> there are already plenty of stuff for fx, that's nice, I've even
> stolen some stuff inside,
> like the dynamic routing, some times ago.
> In fact it's a pain in the **s do a good job in such a mixer because
> of aesthetics,
> anecdotic criterium in this conversation.
> There is no vu-meter in tracks, so we don't know where the signals
> come from, neither at each level it comes.
> There is no peak value detection, we don't know what was the last
> highest peak value,
> to find out what sound would overhelm the mixing equilibrium.
> Using different colors for the different bus is a very good idea, and
> make gaining time
> for finding the good slider,
> but some colors gives Mx an ugly apparence that could be avoided with
> choosing
> harmonious tones, for example a yellow handle over a white background
> slider, is just
> a pain for the eyes. Also the green color is very agressive.
> Mixing sounds is a kind of computation where the engineer need know
> accurately
> which level he has to give to some tracks for getting a correct
> average power,
> for example if we add 3 Decibels we double power...
> The necessary stuff is just a number box that would tell how much Db
> is modulated over a slider.
> here is my favorite mixing tool:
> http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan07/images/cubase5_l.jpg
> _ we can choose DAC~ input and output bus
> _ phase inversion
> _ Gain level
> _ Panning is over the number of output buses we choose
> _ A 'Listen' button has been added with 'Solo', but I didn't use it
> yet.
> _ we can record/play automation from the board.
> _ we can choose if the signal that goes to the bus is pre or post
> fader.
> _ same for vu-meter (all)
> _ we can record stuff passing through the mixer, if it's audio it
> records audio, if it's midi it records midi
> _ we can access directly to the instrument from the mixer track.
> _ there is an internal EQ, very usefull and very well implemented into
> to mixer track.
> _ we can group tracks into group tracks.
> _ we can save settings of each parts of the mixer.
> there are also all the settings that has effect on all the the tracks,
> like hiding all different parts of the tracks
> or setting peak detection time, copy-paste track params, an track edit
> window (so we can see all settings) ...
> For going further in the discussion, I'd need to try Mx EQ's and
> dynamic processing fx.
> This mixer is a cool project, and I'd love to use it in mine, but I'd
> need to make a stand alone patch.
> is there such one?
> ----- Mail Original -----
> De: "Roman Haefeli" <reduzierer at yahoo.de>
> À: "colet patrice" <colet.patrice at free.fr>
> Cc: "João Pais" <jmmmpais at googlemail.com>, "pd-list" <pd-list at iem.at>
> Envoyé: Jeudi 22 Avril 2010 19h27:10 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin /
> Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne
> Objet: Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?
> Hi Patko
> On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 18:27 +0200, colet.patrice at free.fr wrote:
> I just wanted to check if someone has invented this wheel in pd...
> apparently not...
> <marketing lingo>
> Have you checked mx from netpd?
> http://www.netpd.org/Mx
> I am not sure, if it meets your criteria, but some of it features are:
> - slot for insert-fx per channel/master channel
> - unlimited number of slots for aux-fx
> - aux-fx can be chained
> - you can write your own fx
> By using some additional fx plugin suites, you can have:
> - meta-fx, that pack 3 slots into one (this way you can have as many
> inserts in a chain as you want)
> - dynamic processing fx
> - EQs
> - time-based fx, such chorus, flanger, phaser
> - some funky freaky stuff, such as spectral-delay, fft-based
> pitchshifter and more.
> </marketing lingo>
> Roman
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