[PD] nusmuk-audio / mixer aesthetics..

Dan Wilcox danomatika at gmail.com
Sun Apr 25 15:29:13 CEST 2010


I have similar mixer channels (mono and stereo) which I send to different busses on a global mixer.  Works alright. Due to the vu taking cpu, there is a toggle box you need to click to enable the vu.

On Apr 24, 2010, at 1:37 PM, servando barreiro wrote:

> 
> Hi
> 
> I haven´t invented anything but I want to share this:
> 
> http://servandobarreiro.es/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/mix_ser.png  (just th image)
> 
> It´s quite simple, but I find it useful for live performing  situations.. (and Iike that kind of aesthetic..)   maybe somebody wants to improve it..   
> 
> I was thinking about adding a vu-meter per channel but at the moment, I manage ok with just two into the master section (still in progress..).  In this case, the dac~ object it´s inside the mixer.
> 
> http://minitronics.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/trondheim-minimixerpd.zip
> 
> enjoy..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> hello Roman
> 
> I've tried Mx everytime I used netpd, so could tell what doesn't meet my criteria...
> 
> there are already plenty of stuff for fx, that's nice, I've even stolen some stuff inside,
> like the dynamic routing, some times ago.
> 
> In fact it's a pain in the **s do a good job in such a mixer because of aesthetics,
> anecdotic criterium in this conversation.
> 
> There is no vu-meter in tracks, so we don't know where the signals come from, neither at each level it comes.
> 
> There is no peak value detection, we don't know what was the last highest peak value,
> to find out what sound would overhelm the mixing equilibrium.
> 
> Using different colors for the different bus is a very good idea, and make gaining time 
> for finding the good slider,
> but some colors gives Mx an ugly apparence that could be avoided with choosing
> harmonious tones, for example a yellow handle over a white background slider, is just
> a pain for the eyes. Also the green color is very agressive. 
> 
> Mixing sounds is a kind of computation where the engineer need know accurately
> which level he has to give to some tracks for getting a correct average power,
> for example if we add 3 Decibels we double power...
> The necessary stuff is just a number box that would tell how much Db is modulated over a slider.
> 
> 
> here is my favorite mixing tool:
> 
> http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan07/images/cubase5_l.jpg
> 
> _ we can choose DAC~ input and output bus
> _ phase inversion
> _ Gain level
> _ Panning is over the number of output buses we choose
> _ A 'Listen' button has been added with 'Solo', but I didn't use it yet.
> _ we can record/play automation from the board.
> _ we can choose if the signal that goes to the bus is pre or post fader.
> _ same for vu-meter (all)
> _ we can record stuff passing through the mixer, if it's audio it records audio, if it's midi it records midi
> _ we can access directly to the instrument from the mixer track.
> _ there is an internal EQ, very usefull and very well implemented into to mixer track.
> _ we can group tracks into group tracks.
> _ we can save settings of each parts of the mixer.
> 
> there are also all the settings that has effect on all the the tracks, like hiding all different parts of the tracks
> or setting peak detection time, copy-paste track params, an track edit window  (so we can see all settings) ...
> 
> 
> 
> For going further in the discussion, I'd need to try Mx EQ's and dynamic processing fx.
> 
> This mixer is a cool project, and I'd love to use it in mine, but I'd need to make a stand alone patch.
> is there such one?
> 
> 
> ----- Mail Original -----
> De: "Roman Haefeli" <reduzierer at yahoo.de>
> À: "colet patrice" <colet.patrice at free.fr>
> Cc: "João Pais" <jmmmpais at googlemail.com>, "pd-list" <pd-list at iem.at>
> Envoyé: Jeudi 22 Avril 2010 19h27:10 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne
> Objet: Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?
> 
> Hi Patko
> 
> On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 18:27 +0200, colet.patrice at free.fr wrote:
> I just wanted to check if someone has invented this wheel in pd...
> apparently not...
> 
> <marketing lingo>
> 
> Have you checked mx from netpd? 
> http://www.netpd.org/Mx
> 
> I am not sure, if it meets your criteria, but some of it features are:
> 
> - slot for insert-fx per channel/master channel
> - unlimited number of slots for aux-fx
> - aux-fx can be chained
> - you can write your own fx
> 
> By using some additional fx plugin suites, you can have:
> 
> - meta-fx, that pack 3 slots into one (this way you can have as many
> inserts in a chain as you want)
> - dynamic processing fx
> - EQs
> - time-based fx, such chorus, flanger, phaser
> - some funky freaky stuff, such as spectral-delay, fft-based
> pitchshifter and more.
> 
> </marketing lingo>
> 
> 
> 
> Roman
> 
> 
> 

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Dan Wilcox
danomatika.com
robotcowboy.com




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