[PD] nusmuk-audio / mixer aesthetics..

colet.patrice at free.fr colet.patrice at free.fr
Sun Apr 25 16:42:54 CEST 2010


hello,

it looks good and nice idea about the toggle, is there a relation with s-abstractions?

thanks


----- "Dan Wilcox" <danomatika at gmail.com> a écrit :

> I have similar mixer channels (mono and stereo) which I send to
> different busses on a global mixer. Works alright. Due to the vu
> taking cpu, there is a toggle box you need to click to enable the vu.
> 
> 
> On Apr 24, 2010, at 1:37 PM, servando barreiro wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> I haven´t invented anything but I want to share this:
> 
> http://servandobarreiro.es/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/mix_ser.png
> (just th image)
> 
> It´s quite simple, but I find it useful for live performing
> situations.. (and Iike that kind of aesthetic..) maybe somebody wants
> to improve it..
> 
> I was thinking about adding a vu-meter per channel but at the moment,
> I manage ok with just two into the master section (still in
> progress..). In this case, the dac~ object it´s inside the mixer.
> 
> http://minitronics.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/trondheim-minimixerpd.zip
> 
> enjoy..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> hello Roman
> 
> I've tried Mx everytime I used netpd, so could tell what doesn't meet
> my criteria...
> 
> there are already plenty of stuff for fx, that's nice, I've even
> stolen some stuff inside,
> like the dynamic routing, some times ago.
> 
> In fact it's a pain in the **s do a good job in such a mixer because
> of aesthetics,
> anecdotic criterium in this conversation.
> 
> There is no vu-meter in tracks, so we don't know where the signals
> come from, neither at each level it comes.
> 
> There is no peak value detection, we don't know what was the last
> highest peak value,
> to find out what sound would overhelm the mixing equilibrium.
> 
> Using different colors for the different bus is a very good idea, and
> make gaining time
> for finding the good slider,
> but some colors gives Mx an ugly apparence that could be avoided with
> choosing
> harmonious tones, for example a yellow handle over a white background
> slider, is just
> a pain for the eyes. Also the green color is very agressive.
> 
> Mixing sounds is a kind of computation where the engineer need know
> accurately
> which level he has to give to some tracks for getting a correct
> average power,
> for example if we add 3 Decibels we double power...
> The necessary stuff is just a number box that would tell how much Db
> is modulated over a slider.
> 
> 
> here is my favorite mixing tool:
> 
> http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan07/images/cubase5_l.jpg
> 
> _ we can choose DAC~ input and output bus
> _ phase inversion
> _ Gain level
> _ Panning is over the number of output buses we choose
> _ A 'Listen' button has been added with 'Solo', but I didn't use it
> yet.
> _ we can record/play automation from the board.
> _ we can choose if the signal that goes to the bus is pre or post
> fader.
> _ same for vu-meter (all)
> _ we can record stuff passing through the mixer, if it's audio it
> records audio, if it's midi it records midi
> _ we can access directly to the instrument from the mixer track.
> _ there is an internal EQ, very usefull and very well implemented into
> to mixer track.
> _ we can group tracks into group tracks.
> _ we can save settings of each parts of the mixer.
> 
> there are also all the settings that has effect on all the the tracks,
> like hiding all different parts of the tracks
> or setting peak detection time, copy-paste track params, an track edit
> window (so we can see all settings) ...
> 
> 
> 
> For going further in the discussion, I'd need to try Mx EQ's and
> dynamic processing fx.
> 
> This mixer is a cool project, and I'd love to use it in mine, but I'd
> need to make a stand alone patch.
> is there such one?
> 
> 
> ----- Mail Original -----
> De: "Roman Haefeli" <reduzierer at yahoo.de>
> À: "colet patrice" <colet.patrice at free.fr>
> Cc: "João Pais" <jmmmpais at googlemail.com>, "pd-list" <pd-list at iem.at>
> Envoyé: Jeudi 22 Avril 2010 19h27:10 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin /
> Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne
> Objet: Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?
> 
> Hi Patko
> 
> On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 18:27 +0200, colet.patrice at free.fr wrote:
> I just wanted to check if someone has invented this wheel in pd...
> apparently not...
> 
> <marketing lingo>
> 
> Have you checked mx from netpd?
> http://www.netpd.org/Mx
> 
> I am not sure, if it meets your criteria, but some of it features are:
> 
> - slot for insert-fx per channel/master channel
> - unlimited number of slots for aux-fx
> - aux-fx can be chained
> - you can write your own fx
> 
> By using some additional fx plugin suites, you can have:
> 
> - meta-fx, that pack 3 slots into one (this way you can have as many
> inserts in a chain as you want)
> - dynamic processing fx
> - EQs
> - time-based fx, such chorus, flanger, phaser
> - some funky freaky stuff, such as spectral-delay, fft-based
> pitchshifter and more.
> 
> </marketing lingo>
> 
> 
> 
> Roman
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --------
> Dan Wilcox
> danomatika.com
> robotcowboy.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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