[PD] unix and (bad) companies.

[Martin Eckart]

I also used Blender for a video project last year.  It was definitely a
learning curve but in all it did what I needed.

-martin

On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 16:38 +0200, Olivier Heinry wrote:
> I started using Blender's sequence engine a few months back, and as long
> as you install a version compiled with ffmpeg support, it works nicely.
> it's a very different environment though.
> 
> pros:
> * x-platform
> * features 3D!
> * big community, alive project
> 
> cons:
> * implies learn very different shortcuts
> * file browser not handy
> 
> dont know if you can capture anything from within it, but pd/dvgrab does
> the job for me.
> 
> ++
> OH
> 
> Le 22/09/2010 16:16, Pagano, Patrick a écrit :
> > cinelerra is basically Bcast2000 redone IMHO
> > I will look at kdenlive i guess!
> > :-)
> > thx.
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [hans at at.or.at]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:07 AM
> > To: Pagano, Patrick
> > Cc: James Dunn; pd-list at iem.at
> > Subject: Re: [PD] unix and (bad) companies.
> > 
> > How about kdenlive or cinelerra?  I've been working a bit with kdelive
> > and it seems pretty straightforward and even usable ;)
> > 
> > .hc
> > 
> > On Sep 22, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
> > 
> >> the achilles heel for linux in my opinion is still video editing.
> >> I've tried everything from Broadcast2000 to Lives with no luck
> >> bueller?
> >> ________________________________________
> >> From: pd-list-bounces at iem.at [pd-list-bounces at iem.at] On Behalf Of
> >> James Dunn [james at 4thharmonic.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 7:25 AM
> >> To: pd-list at iem.at
> >> Subject: Re: [PD] unix and (bad) companies.
> >>
> >> I love linux and ubuntu but the driver support is a bit of an issue.
> >> I recently upgraded my mother's computer to 10.04 and now her Dell
> >> V505 all-in-one printer doesn't work. I got no (helpful) response
> >> from emailing Dell.
> >> Secondly on a pd related problem, I am still running 8.04 because
> >> the proprietary ATI driver (no longer maintained) will only run on
> >> the old version of xorg and the open source driver doesn't have 3D
> >> support for Gem...
> >>
> >> James
> >>
> >> Quoth servando barreiro, on 22/09/10 12:06:
> >>
> >> HI there..
> >>
> >> I just want to "share" my experiences with Os´s..
> >>
> >> I started in the nineties with a windows machine, I tried 95, 98,
> >> millenium, nt, xp....
> >> It hanged really frequently  (20 times in a day w cad software..) so
> >> I assumed that as a normal function state from the machine..
> >>
> >> At some point I tried  beOS and I found it great but I couldn´t do
> >> anything w it..
> >>
> >> years later, I discovered that computers with the fruit thing  and I
> >> was really amazed, not just because of the stabilty  (but still one
> >> or two hangs per day with os 9.2),  also because I could do audio in
> >> real-time with them..  (well, coming from that windows nightmare,
> >> even a gameboy was fascinating..)
> >>
> >> Then I got one.. and until the day, I´ve been using all the Os´s and
> >> also tried almost all the hardware that was/is in the market.
> >>
> >> My experience with linux (about 4 years ago, ethic/curiosity  )
> >> started very slow, but definitely in an ascendent curve of
> >> satisfaction & admiration..
> >>
> >> Nowadays to code and to travel, I use a small thinkpad with ubuntu
> >> 10 and the experience is just fantastic..   It´s actually so good
> >> that I´m starting to hate all the mac shits..   Because when you
> >> know where linux cames from and who works on it,  you can understand
> >> that sometimes you have to put energy  on your side to look for a
> >> driver or whatever  (Not the case at all w ubu 10).
> >>
> >> What I can´t understand....  Is that this big companies (micr/appl)
> >> with hundred or "thousands" of good programmers working for them,
> >> are still doing crap...   (seems that they are focusing energies in
> >> making money & trying to protect his soft/hard  instead of making
> >> good code...)
> >>
> >> yesterday I formatted my mac and I installed the last system
> >> (10.6 ).  There´s a known bug on it  that not just doesn´t connect
> >> to internet, it also keeps sending packets to the router until the
> >> router stops working,,,, (???).
> >>
> >> I had to reset the router from the linux and download one by one the
> >> system updates for the mac.  This bug is known since 10.6.0,  I
> >> already have the 10.6.4  and the bug it´s still not solved
> >> completely.,.. (???????)
> >>
> >> This just shows that It doesn´t matter how many hundreds of related
> >> posts you do in the official apple forums & related..  apple just don
> >> ´t give a shit about the problems of the users....  (specially if
> >> your hardware it´s not brand new...).
> >>
> >> The ubuntu forums are far more clear and helpful than that,,
> >>
> >> About windows, I will not complain anymore... (not neccesary),  but
> >> I still "understand" people that uses it, because there´s people
> >> that doesn´t care about computers (even when they are working w
> >> them..)
> >>
> >> what I do, when I´m teaching a workshop Is to carry one or two usb
> >> sticks with a live distro (pure dyne / openartist ) and invite the
> >> people to try a "truly" operative system..
> >>
> >> many of my friends, they have switched to Linux (at least
> >> partially..) and they are happy w it.. (that makes me happy too..).
> >>
> >> If the trajectories of the operative systems evolutions  follow as
> >> they are already, It wouldn´t sound strange to me that in some
> >> years, the amount of linux users (pure or mixed) will increase
> >> massively.
> >>
> >> To finish, I would just like to thank to all the linux developers /
> >> contributors  for his hard work to make this incredibly operative
> >> system.
> >>
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