[PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter

[Jonathan Wilkes]

--- On Thu, 2/17/11, Andy Farnell <padawan12 at obiwannabe.co.uk> wrote:

> From: Andy Farnell <padawan12 at obiwannabe.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter
> To: "Mathieu Bouchard" <matju at artengine.ca>
> Cc: pd-list at iem.at
> Date: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 9:28 PM
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:39:33 -0500
> (EST)
> Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> > With Pd-extended's opaque boxes, you could be making
> mistakes involving 
> > NON-identical boxes on top of each other. But frankly,
> I don't recall this 
> > happening. (I was also the first one to advocate
> opaque boxes and show a 
> > prototype.)
> 
> Imagine this disaster: You highlight an area of a dense,
> complex patch. By
> accident, while attempting to duplicate, you hit CTRLC then
> CTRLV,
> thus copying the entire area onto itself in place. The
> objects beneath
> continue to work of course, blindly spitting out data to
> things like arrays
> and sends. Meanwhile, you start to make new connections to
> what looks
> like a normal patch, but are in fact doppelgänger objects
> in the
> top copy.... hilarity ensues.

It's a lot more difficult to do this with pd-l2ork, because when you 
hit ctrl-v the objects are hanging from the mouse waiting to be 
placed by single-clicking on the canvas.  In messing around, I've found 
the only way you can do this is to click ctrl-v multiple times, but you'll 
still end up with copies of the object-chain in a separate location 
from the original, hanging from your mouse as a clue that you're doing 
something really weird, and should click "Undo".  (Actually, an undo 
history would come in really handy in this situation.)

One other failsafe would be to make "Tidy Up" fan out objects that are 
directly on top of each other.

> 
> 
> > IEMGUIs have lots of hidden settings :
> receive-symbol, send-symbol, init, 
> > lin-log.
> 
> Yep. Fortunately these can be figured out in most cases.
>  
> > All subpatches has to be opened in order to see a
> complete file on-screen, 
> 
> Great in education, with good structure complex patches can
> be discussed 
> in bite sized modular chunks. Hoorah! for sub-patches.
> 
> > [loadbang] creation order

Same with [r] and many other objects that allow nonlocal connections.

> 
> Good one. I forgot about this one.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Andy Farnell <padawan12 at obiwannabe.co.uk>
> 
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