[PD] [OT] technological parody was: Pd performance at TED

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 23 00:48:09 CEST 2011

I know, sucking of said life happens often on a list like this, but I'm just challenging 
you based on the definition of the term offered on this thread.

Pd is not a technological parody, but the patch to which I referred is.  If it seems suitable 
to call one thing by this term because we want to deride it, but not another thing to which 
it applies because we like and use it, then the term doesn't help further the discourse.  
That's what I mean by "ideological"-- a very general sense of the word.

Also, I do think I'm on point with regard to locked-down-proprietary vs. free/open.  I mean 
I could turn it around by imagining someone taking B07.sampler.pd on a small form factor 
machine with DRM and hooking up some kind of turntable controller so you could scratch 
"continuous soft music" till your heart's content, but that's all.  That would be equally as 
stupid.  On the other hand, that patch is a great tutorial patch in it's current context-- 
as someone mentioned, just start adding objects (or iemguis) and you can quickly 
extend it to do cool things.

Or from the other end-- think of hooking up a mouse to the console where someone 
is playing Guitar Hero, getting a pointer, then right-clicking on some part of the screen 
that brings up the Pd abstraction responsible for outputting the song to the speakers, or 
mapping the controller input... Ok you can't actually do that, I know, but that's the point, 
really-- if you could it we'd be talking about free software, and technological parody or 
no, we'd quickly be doing some cool things with that game. :)


--- On Wed, 6/22/11, Charles Henry <czhenry at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Charles Henry <czhenry at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PD] [OT] technological parody was: Pd performance at TED
To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancsika at yahoo.com>, pd-list at iem.at
Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 11:40 PM

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com> wrote:

How is the guitar hero example not just an example of locked down proprietary consoles 
vs.  free software ideals?

I think you missed the contrast.  Pd is clearly not a "technological parody", even if it looks like just a software version of patching together synthesizers/effects.  That was the point.  I think we're going to suck all the fun out of this expression now... I do this often enough on the list.

Other than that--GH is stupid.  and I think that's a perfectly good reason to trash it.  I selected it as the first real example of something that I think is a joke of technology.

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