[PD] no pd?? WTF ????

[Richie Cyngler]

You're right Jonathan, I completely agree. I really shouldn't post things
until I've had breakfast. Or try to be light and  ironic on topics that I
believe strongly in, i.e. cynicism != useful in most situations.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>wrote:

> No, there really are music students out there looking at what they need in
> order to be successful, and
> when most of the voices around them are aggressively (and often
> ignorantly) suggesting only
> proprietary tools that cost lots of money, these students save up their
> meager resources in order to
> buy them.  I'm talking about students who are probably already in debt
> from loans, and it's quite common
> that they max out on their technology budget and as a consequence are
> unable to attend a
> festival.
>
> What's even worse is that these constrained options lead to a lot of those
> students downloading
> cracked copies of proprietary software (and the negative effects there
> usually manifest themselves
> more quickly and concretely).
>
> -Jonathan
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Richie Cyngler <glitchpop at gmail.com>
> *To:* Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* Ben Baker-Smith <bbakersmith at gmail.com>; pd list <pd-list at iem.at>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 10, 2012 5:53 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [PD] no pd?? WTF ????
>
> Not a bad point... but, or more likely because they are supporting only
> those artists able to afford such things as expensive software, travel and
> food.
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> I can't think of a better example of the vicious cycle of software lock-in
> than this.
> They don't have money to offer financial support, so they have to rely on
> the tools
> that they know, which are proprietary and expensive, thus making it even
> less likely
> that a composer would be able to afford to travel to the concert (because
> he/she
> had to spend money on either Max/MSP or Kyma to composer the piece in the
> first
> place).
>
>
> -Jonathan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ben Baker-Smith <bbakersmith at gmail.com>
> > To: pd list <pd-list at iem.at>
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 4:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PD] no pd?? WTF ????
> >
> > Hi list!
> >
> > I got a more clear response from the organizers on this issue than
> > anything I've seen in this thread so far - here it is:
> >
> >>  Hi Ben,
> >>
> >>  thanks for your Interest in our Call.
> >>
> >>  We accepts only patches made with Kyma or Max/MSP due the fact we are
> not
> > able to provide
> >>  financial support for the two selected composers. So it is possible
> that
> > they will not be able to be in Milan  for the concert.
> >>  To avoid technical issues we choose the plattforms we already use in
> our
> > work or we are very familiar with.
> >>  This is the only reason.
> >>  If the selected composer can assure us to be available for the concert
> the
> > can be used any piece of software/hardware.
> >>
> >>  I hope this helps.
> >>
> >>  Many thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>  Federico Placidi
> >
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Richie
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