[PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack
Ivica Ico Bukvic
ico at vt.edu
Sun Nov 25 05:32:26 CET 2012
Scope~ and envgen work just fine here. Can you report what is broken
with them? As for output~, I am not even sure what library is this a
part of since I don't use it. Since pd-l2ork by default does not load
all libraries, you need to explicitly call the object by its folder/lib,
e.g. <libname>/output~
On 11/24/2012 09:16 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> It would be amazing if Pd-extended 0.43 is put to work with jack... *.*
>
> Pd-L2Ork can't suply my expectations..
>
> objects like [output~] [Scope~] [envgen] don't work on the L2Ork
> version here..
>
> My last chance would be pd-extended 0.43...
>
>
> 2012/11/24 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at <mailto:hans at at.or.at>>
>
>
> If someone can point me to the commit that fixes this, I'm happy
> to include it in Pd-extended 0.43. I just never use Jack, so I
> don't know what's what. Things work in my basic tests.
>
> I know that Miller changed this stuff in pure-data.git.
>
> .hc
>
> On Nov 24, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Gerhard Lang wrote:
>
> > Tx Ivica and Esteban,
> > as similarly afflicted user encouraged by this thread I followed
> this recommendation, replaced pd and pd-extended with pd-l2ork.
> > Works flawlessly together with jack 1.9.9-test5 from kx-studio
> ppa, dsp is switchable, some other bugs are gone, my patches run :D
> > You made my day and now I'm going to learn more about L2ork.
> > Gerhard
> >
> > Am 24.11.2012 17:35, schrieb Ivica Bukvic:
> >>
> >> With 1.9.8 and pd-l2ork all your problems will be solved except
> for the one caused by jack which in your case should not be a
> problem unless you physically disconnect (accidentally our
> otherwise) your audio hardware while jack is running.
> >>
> >> On Nov 24, 2012 7:44 AM, "Esteban Viveros" <emviveros at gmail.com
> <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com> <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com
> <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>
> >> HUm... Ok... I will try!
> >>
> >> But what the better? Jack 1.9.8 or 1.9.9?
> >>
> >>
> >> 2012/11/24 Ivica Bukvic <ico at vt.edu <mailto:ico at vt.edu>
> <mailto:ico at vt.edu <mailto:ico at vt.edu>>>
> >>
> >> That is the regression I spoke of in pd 0.43 branch. Try
> >> pd-l2ork...
> >>
> >> On Nov 23, 2012 9:27 PM, "Esteban Viveros"
> >> <emviveros at gmail.com <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com>
> <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ops... I did a better test, and doing first open Pd and
> >> then I open Jack. Now The DSP function work well, but I
> >> don't have sound...
> >>
> >> On messages box I have:
> >>
> >> 00:18:26.321 Patchbay deactivated.
> >>
> >> 00:18:26.373 Statistics reset.
> >>
> >> 00:18:26.388 ALSA connection change.
> >>
> >> 00:18:26.440 JACK connection change.
> >>
> >> 00:18:26.467 Client activated.
> >>
> >> 00:18:52.992 JACK connection graph change.
> >>
> >> 00:18:53.134 JACK connection change.
> >>
> >> 00:19:38.102 Client deactivated.
> >>
> >> 00:19:38.103 Post-shutdown script...
> >>
> >> 00:19:38.103 dreamstudio-restart-pulseaudio
> >>
> >> # making sure pulseaudio will restart if it crashes
> >>
> >> # starting pulseaudio
> >>
> >> # connecting pulseaudio to JACK
> >>
> >> Falha: A inicialização do módulo falhou
> >>
> >> Falha: A inicialização do módulo falhou
> >>
> >> 00:19:41.798 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit
> >> status=256.
> >>
> >> 00:19:44.297 JACK connection change.
> >>
> >> 00:19:44.311 Client activated.
> >>
> >> 00:20:38.543 JACK connection graph change.
> >>
> >> 00:20:38.693 JACK connection change.
> >>
> >> 00:20:42.648 ALSA connection graph change.
> >>
> >> 00:20:42.708 ALSA connection change.
> >>
> >> 00:20:42.709 ALSA connection graph change.
> >>
> >> 00:20:42.910 ALSA connection change.
> >>
> >> 00:20:45.334 JACK connection graph change.
> >>
> >> 00:20:45.514 JACK connection change.
> >>
> >> 00:20:52.993 JACK connection graph change.
> >>
> >> 00:20:53.014 Buffer size change (64).
> >>
> >>
> >> What can I do now?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2012/11/23 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com
> <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com>
> >> <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com
> <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com>>>
> >>
> >> Hmmm... I can understand now...
> >>
> >> Well.. I tried now the version of Jack on kxstudio
> >> testing ppa
> >>
> <https://launchpad.net/%7Ekxstudio-team/+archive/testing>
> >> and the problem is the same... :(
> >>
> >> This ppa was install jack2, jackd and jackdfirewire
> >> packages on version 1.9.9 but the package
> >> libjack-jack2.0 is mantained on version 1.9.8
> >>
> >> The next step will be to compile jack packages on
> >> version 1.9.9
> >>
> >> Ivica, or anyone, you have some information how
> can I
> >> compile that? For that I need some help.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >>
> >> 2012/11/23 Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico at vt.edu
> <mailto:ico at vt.edu>
> >> <mailto:ico at vt.edu <mailto:ico at vt.edu>>>
> >>
> >> See below (from the linux-audio-user list):
> >>
> >> Re: [LAU] question about jackdmp's ability to
> >> detect its soundcard has disconnected
> >>
> >> Could this be the difference between 1.9.8
> and git
> >> version?
> >>
> >> On Oct 29, 2012 12:10 PM, "Robin Gareus"
> >> <robin at gareus.org <mailto:robin at gareus.org>
> <mailto:robin at gareus.org <mailto:robin at gareus.org>>> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10/29/2012 03:55 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
> >> > All,
> >> >
> >> > I noticed since upgrading to Ubuntu 12.04 that
> >> the default Jack server is
> >> > jackdmp (v.1.9.8). Please correct me if I am
> >> wrong but my understanding this
> >> > is the smp-enabled version 2 that is being
> >> developed in parallel with 1.x
> >> > series of regular jack.
> >>
> >> correct. They are also API and ABI compatible.
> >>
> >> > Either way, one of my concerns is that
> while in
> >> the old jack when one
> >> > accidentally pulled the soundcard jack was
> >> trying to talk to (e.g. a USB
> >> > soundcard), the jack would gracefully stop.
> >>
> >> In my experience it stopped but never gracefully
> >> (ie it crashed). but
> >> it's been a while since I used jack1.
> >>
> >> > The new version (and this could
> >> > be Ubuntu quirk) instead of stopping is pegged
> >> in some kind of a spinlock
> >> > that often times locks up the machine
> (this may
> >> be in part since I am
> >> > running a lowlatency kernel with audio group
> >> given priority) and at times
> >> > keeps it operational while hogging the cpu and
> >> making the computer barely
> >> > responsive until jackd is killed. Apps
> connected
> >> to jack that I tested so
> >> > far are also stuck in a loop waiting for a
> >> response from jack (although this
> >> > could be the app's shortcoming)--jack never
> >> broadcasts a signal that it has
> >> > lost the soundcard (AFAICT). FWIW I am running
> >> jackdmp through qjackctl...
> >> > Any thoughts on this matter would be most
> >> appreciated.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I can't reproduce this. jack2 stops the backend
> >> when the device is
> >> disconnected. You can switch to a new backend
> >> using jack_control
> >> (sending some Dbus messages to jackd) without
> >> re-starting jackd. No CPU
> >> hogging here. - I'm running jack2 - aka 1.9.9.4
> >> from git.
> >>
> >> robin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Esteban Viveros
> >>
> >> (27) 8815 7170
> >> (27) 3066 0359
> >> (11) 95761 4125
> >> (11) 2738 7868
> >>
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> >>
> >> https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art
> >>
> >> http://www.papodecompositor-es.blogspot.com.br/
> >>
> >> http://expurgacao.art.br/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Esteban Viveros
> >>
> >> (27) 8815 7170
> >> (27) 3066 0359
> >> (11) 95761 4125
> >> (11) 2738 7868
> >>
> >> www.bandpage.com/estebanviveros
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> >> <http://soundcloud.com/estebanviveros>
> >>
> >> https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art
> >>
> >> http://www.papodecompositor-es.blogspot.com.br/
> >>
> >> http://expurgacao.art.br/
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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> >> (11) 2738 7868
> >>
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> >> http://expurgacao.art.br/
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> >>
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Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A
Composition, Music Technology
Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio
Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra
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