[PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack
Hans-Christoph Steiner
hans at at.or.at
Sun Nov 25 06:19:31 CET 2012
output~.pd is an abstraction included in pd/extra/ Pd-extended.
.hc
On 11/24/2012 11:32 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
> Scope~ and envgen work just fine here. Can you report what is broken with
> them? As for output~, I am not even sure what library is this a part of since
> I don't use it. Since pd-l2ork by default does not load all libraries, you
> need to explicitly call the object by its folder/lib, e.g. <libname>/output~
>
> On 11/24/2012 09:16 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> It would be amazing if Pd-extended 0.43 is put to work with jack... *.*
>>
>> Pd-L2Ork can't suply my expectations..
>>
>> objects like [output~] [Scope~] [envgen] don't work on the L2Ork version
>> here..
>>
>> My last chance would be pd-extended 0.43...
>>
>>
>> 2012/11/24 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at <mailto:hans at at.or.at>>
>>
>>
>> If someone can point me to the commit that fixes this, I'm happy
>> to include it in Pd-extended 0.43. I just never use Jack, so I
>> don't know what's what. Things work in my basic tests.
>>
>> I know that Miller changed this stuff in pure-data.git.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Gerhard Lang wrote:
>>
>> > Tx Ivica and Esteban,
>> > as similarly afflicted user encouraged by this thread I followed
>> this recommendation, replaced pd and pd-extended with pd-l2ork.
>> > Works flawlessly together with jack 1.9.9-test5 from kx-studio
>> ppa, dsp is switchable, some other bugs are gone, my patches run :D
>> > You made my day and now I'm going to learn more about L2ork.
>> > Gerhard
>> >
>> > Am 24.11.2012 17:35, schrieb Ivica Bukvic:
>> >>
>> >> With 1.9.8 and pd-l2ork all your problems will be solved except
>> for the one caused by jack which in your case should not be a
>> problem unless you physically disconnect (accidentally our
>> otherwise) your audio hardware while jack is running.
>> >>
>> >> On Nov 24, 2012 7:44 AM, "Esteban Viveros" <emviveros at gmail.com
>> <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com> <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com
>> <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> HUm... Ok... I will try!
>> >>
>> >> But what the better? Jack 1.9.8 or 1.9.9?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2012/11/24 Ivica Bukvic <ico at vt.edu <mailto:ico at vt.edu>
>> <mailto:ico at vt.edu <mailto:ico at vt.edu>>>
>> >>
>> >> That is the regression I spoke of in pd 0.43 branch. Try
>> >> pd-l2ork...
>> >>
>> >> On Nov 23, 2012 9:27 PM, "Esteban Viveros"
>> >> <emviveros at gmail.com <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ops... I did a better test, and doing first open Pd and
>> >> then I open Jack. Now The DSP function work well, but I
>> >> don't have sound...
>> >>
>> >> On messages box I have:
>> >>
>> >> 00:18:26.321 Patchbay deactivated.
>> >>
>> >> 00:18:26.373 Statistics reset.
>> >>
>> >> 00:18:26.388 ALSA connection change.
>> >>
>> >> 00:18:26.440 JACK connection change.
>> >>
>> >> 00:18:26.467 Client activated.
>> >>
>> >> 00:18:52.992 JACK connection graph change.
>> >>
>> >> 00:18:53.134 JACK connection change.
>> >>
>> >> 00:19:38.102 Client deactivated.
>> >>
>> >> 00:19:38.103 Post-shutdown script...
>> >>
>> >> 00:19:38.103 dreamstudio-restart-pulseaudio
>> >>
>> >> # making sure pulseaudio will restart if it crashes
>> >>
>> >> # starting pulseaudio
>> >>
>> >> # connecting pulseaudio to JACK
>> >>
>> >> Falha: A inicialização do módulo falhou
>> >>
>> >> Falha: A inicialização do módulo falhou
>> >>
>> >> 00:19:41.798 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit
>> >> status=256.
>> >>
>> >> 00:19:44.297 JACK connection change.
>> >>
>> >> 00:19:44.311 Client activated.
>> >>
>> >> 00:20:38.543 JACK connection graph change.
>> >>
>> >> 00:20:38.693 JACK connection change.
>> >>
>> >> 00:20:42.648 ALSA connection graph change.
>> >>
>> >> 00:20:42.708 ALSA connection change.
>> >>
>> >> 00:20:42.709 ALSA connection graph change.
>> >>
>> >> 00:20:42.910 ALSA connection change.
>> >>
>> >> 00:20:45.334 JACK connection graph change.
>> >>
>> >> 00:20:45.514 JACK connection change.
>> >>
>> >> 00:20:52.993 JACK connection graph change.
>> >>
>> >> 00:20:53.014 Buffer size change (64).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> What can I do now?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2012/11/23 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com
>> <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com>
>> >> <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com
>> <mailto:emviveros at gmail.com>>>
>> >>
>> >> Hmmm... I can understand now...
>> >>
>> >> Well.. I tried now the version of Jack on kxstudio
>> >> testing ppa
>> >>
>> <https://launchpad.net/%7Ekxstudio-team/+archive/testing>
>> >> and the problem is the same... :(
>> >>
>> >> This ppa was install jack2, jackd and jackdfirewire
>> >> packages on version 1.9.9 but the package
>> >> libjack-jack2.0 is mantained on version 1.9.8
>> >>
>> >> The next step will be to compile jack packages on
>> >> version 1.9.9
>> >>
>> >> Ivica, or anyone, you have some information how
>> can I
>> >> compile that? For that I need some help.
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2012/11/23 Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico at vt.edu
>> <mailto:ico at vt.edu>
>> >> <mailto:ico at vt.edu <mailto:ico at vt.edu>>>
>> >>
>> >> See below (from the linux-audio-user list):
>> >>
>> >> Re: [LAU] question about jackdmp's ability to
>> >> detect its soundcard has disconnected
>> >>
>> >> Could this be the difference between 1.9.8
>> and git
>> >> version?
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 29, 2012 12:10 PM, "Robin Gareus"
>> >> <robin at gareus.org <mailto:robin at gareus.org>
>> <mailto:robin at gareus.org <mailto:robin at gareus.org>>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 10/29/2012 03:55 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
>> >> > All,
>> >> >
>> >> > I noticed since upgrading to Ubuntu 12.04 that
>> >> the default Jack server is
>> >> > jackdmp (v.1.9.8). Please correct me if I am
>> >> wrong but my understanding this
>> >> > is the smp-enabled version 2 that is being
>> >> developed in parallel with 1.x
>> >> > series of regular jack.
>> >>
>> >> correct. They are also API and ABI compatible.
>> >>
>> >> > Either way, one of my concerns is that
>> while in
>> >> the old jack when one
>> >> > accidentally pulled the soundcard jack was
>> >> trying to talk to (e.g. a USB
>> >> > soundcard), the jack would gracefully stop.
>> >>
>> >> In my experience it stopped but never gracefully
>> >> (ie it crashed). but
>> >> it's been a while since I used jack1.
>> >>
>> >> > The new version (and this could
>> >> > be Ubuntu quirk) instead of stopping is pegged
>> >> in some kind of a spinlock
>> >> > that often times locks up the machine
>> (this may
>> >> be in part since I am
>> >> > running a lowlatency kernel with audio group
>> >> given priority) and at times
>> >> > keeps it operational while hogging the cpu and
>> >> making the computer barely
>> >> > responsive until jackd is killed. Apps
>> connected
>> >> to jack that I tested so
>> >> > far are also stuck in a loop waiting for a
>> >> response from jack (although this
>> >> > could be the app's shortcoming)--jack never
>> >> broadcasts a signal that it has
>> >> > lost the soundcard (AFAICT). FWIW I am running
>> >> jackdmp through qjackctl...
>> >> > Any thoughts on this matter would be most
>> >> appreciated.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I can't reproduce this. jack2 stops the backend
>> >> when the device is
>> >> disconnected. You can switch to a new backend
>> >> using jack_control
>> >> (sending some Dbus messages to jackd) without
>> >> re-starting jackd. No CPU
>> >> hogging here. - I'm running jack2 - aka 1.9.9.4
>> >> from git.
>> >>
>> >> robin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Esteban Viveros
>> >>
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>> >>
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>> >>
>> >> https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art
>> >>
>> >> http://www.papodecompositor-es.blogspot.com.br/
>> >>
>> >> http://expurgacao.art.br/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Esteban Viveros
>> >>
>> >> (27) 8815 7170
>> >> (27) 3066 0359
>> >> (11) 95761 4125
>> >> (11) 2738 7868
>> >>
>> >> www.bandpage.com/estebanviveros
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>> >>
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>> >>
>> >> http://www.papodecompositor-es.blogspot.com.br/
>> >>
>> >> http://expurgacao.art.br/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >> Esteban Viveros
>> >>
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>> Esteban Viveros
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