[PD] console font size really big

Peter P. p8rpp at aol.com
Sat Jan 25 01:10:39 CET 2014

* Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com> [2014-01-25 00:28]:
> On 01/24/2014 05:31 PM, Peter P. wrote:
> >Johnathan WIlkins wrote:
> >
> >>I'd be curious to know what window manager you are using.
> >>
> >>Try going into pd-gui.tcl and find the line:
> >># tk scaling 1
> >>
> >>Remove the "#", save the file, and then restart Pd.  See if that
> >>solves the problem.
> >>(Depending on how you are running Pd, you may need to have privileges
> >>to edit that file)
> >>-Jonathan
> >I am using fluxbox.
> >
> >Indeed, editing /usr/local/lib/pd/tcl/pd-gui.tcl to yield
> >     tk scaling 1
> >solved the problem for me.
> >
> >Interestingly there is a file /usr/local/bin/pd-gui.tcl present as
> >well, whose changes do not have an effet. This Pd is installed using
> >"make install" from within Miller's git sources. I wonder why
> >pd-gui.tcl is installed twice on my system, the latter one also being
> >in my $PATH.
> >
> >Thank you again for this quick one Jonathan.
> >
> >There is a comment related to tk scaling in this very file just above
> >the scaling option:
> >     # we are not using Tk scaling, so fix it to 1 on all platforms.  This
> >     # guarantees that patches will be pixel-exact on every platform
> >     # 2013.07.19 msp - trying without this to see what breaks - it's
> >     # having
> >     # deleterious effects on dialog window font sizes.
> >
> >Would be interesting to know wonder what the deletrious effects were.
> Tk has a very friendly but very small community without the
> resources to make sure everything works as advertised across all
> platforms.  So depending on which platform you use you'll see
> different symptoms, depending on how well tk is integrated with the
> guts of the window manager (in GNU/Linux, this would be "not at
> all"), the accuracy of the info delivered to Tk from the OS/window
> manager, implementation features/bugs in a particular graphics
> subsystem, etc.
> One detail is that if you let [tk scaling] do its thing, you'll see
> problems in the postscript output if you print a patch.  There's an
> ugly fix somewhere for this which requires hacking the ps output to
> scale it by the tk scaling factor.
> But if you hard code tk scaling to 1 users on Windows will see font
> problems from Tk's half-baked, hardly documented theming engine that
> would require _really_ ugly hacks all over Pd to fix.
Thanks again Jonathan, great description! So I'll stick to scaling
myself unless I want to print a .ps version of the patch.

best, Peter

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