[PD] Nettles. Was: Cyclone: List of Issues with existing objects by Alexandre Porres

Marco Matteo Markidis mm.markidis at gmail.com
Wed Feb 17 20:41:57 CET 2016

Dear Fred,

some of the objects proposed by Porres could be added in cyclone? If yes,
we can work on them; otherwise I see your todo list[1]. If you confirm this
list probably it's better to work to fix bugs.


Marco Matteo Markidis

[1]: http://fjkraan.home.xs4all.nl/digaud/puredata/cyclone/cycloneToDo.html

2016-02-17 19:33 GMT+01:00 Fred Jan Kraan <fjkraan at xs4all.nl>:

> Hi Alexandre,
> Howdy, if you understand only a part of it, I know that I know about
>> nothing.
>> But hey, as I understand it, there's quite some work to make it (loading
>> the weird name objects without [declare]) happen and you'd rather focus
>> on other fixes, cool.
>> Well, I'm just starting using github
>> https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone
>> <
>> https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fporres%2Fpd-cyclone&h=FAQF6upTy>
>> and
>> have mobilized others to collaborate with new objects for cyclone,
>> according to that list I shared these days.
>> You may have noticed a pull request already for [pong]. I'm working with
>> someone else and we should be having scale / scale~ / atodb / dbtoa /
>> atodb~ / dbtoa~ / trunc~ ready quite soon!
> Yes, I noticed. I appreciate all you do for pd and cyclone in particular,
> but I cannot accept the request. Cyclone is one of the few libraries with a
> closed set of objects; only those part of Max/MSP, arbitrary set around
> version 4.6 or 5.
> Cyclone is already quite big, with 150+ objects. This seems a good reason
> to be selective in which objects should be added. Just because objects are
> or should be in Max/MSP is not reason enough. If it exists in another
> library, it is unneeded IMHO.
>> I can bother myself to try and deal with the issues regarding these
>> objects, but I think a start could be to create new objects with the
>> unweird names, this is not in conflict with Max compatibility, as it
>> also loads these objects via the same way (again, they'd be:
>> /greaterthan~ / greaterthaneq~ / lessthan~ / lessthaneq~ / equals~ /
>> notequals~ / plusequals~ / rminus~ / rminus / rdiv~ /  rdiv / modulo~/).
>> It wouldn't get in conflict with current state of cyclone either and the
>> help files of these objects could refer to nettles and all. Cool? Later
>> on in the game I can try and figure out how to load them without declare.
> Personally I have no issue with [declare] as it is vanilla. Or with the
> weird names; if you want un-weird names, abstractions (containing [declare]
> should work too?
>> cheers
>> cheers
> Greetings,
> Fred Jan
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