[PD] How to get off verbose mode?

Antoine Rousseau antoine at metalu.net
Wed Dec 27 23:44:15 CET 2017

Thanks for explanations, sorry if I missed that.

The fact is that the current behavior leads to some confusion, as you know
(e.g change "temporarily" the audio device, then open startup dialog, click
OK, and voila, the audio device is saved...).
So I see mainly 2 options that would fix that:

- saving settings to different files: general/audio/midi
- caching audio and midi settings from initial prefs file reading, and
overriding them only when "save audio settings" or "save midi settings" are

#2 is better I guess...

Antoine Rousseau
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2017-12-27 19:14 GMT+01:00 Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com>:

> In that case,
> - Audio and Midi could do as well, instead of their current "Save all
> settings" buttons
> I felt that way too but, as Miller pointed out, what happens when you use
> different hot pluggable sound devices? You wouldn't necessarily *want* to
> save a temporary device each time, that plus the GUI freezes for a bit when
> you save the preferences. I did enable auto saving for this dialog but it
> was *pretty* annoying to wait every time you close it.
> There are definitely some things to fix regarding consistency, but there
> are still a few reasons why they don't quite match completely.
> On Dec 27, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Antoine Rousseau <antoine at metalu.net> wrote:
> IMO the startup flags like this should *not* be saved
> of course I agree with https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/153
> However I was referring to another "issue", which is about auto-saving
> behaviour of (only) some dialogs.
> Antoine Rousseau
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> 2017-12-27 18:00 GMT+01:00 Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com>:
>> IMO the startup flags like this should *not* be saved or be added to the
>> existing settings when saving. They should only act as overrides to the
>> settings. This is true for a number of flags such as -path for which I have
>> a fix on Github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/153
>> On Dec 27, 2017, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request at lists.iem.at wrote:
>> From: Antoine Rousseau <antoine at metalu.net>
>> To: Alexandros <adrcki at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com>, Pd-List <pd-list at lists.iem.at>
>> Subject: Re: [PD] How to get off verbose mode?
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>> Setting the -verbose flag adds it to the startup flags and if you *save*
>> the settings the flag is saved as well
>> In fact, on Linux at least, you don't even need to *save* the settings:
>> clicking "Apply" or "OK" buttons of Path and Startup dialogs "auto"-saves
>> (all) the settings.
>> to pd-devs:
>> if this is intended, maybe:
>> - Audio and Midi could do as well, instead of their current "Save all
>> settings" buttons
>> - "Preferences/Save all Preferences" menu entry could be removed.
>> --------
>> Dan Wilcox
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> Dan Wilcox
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