[PD] external libraries for Raspberry Pi - how to compile?

Sun Sep 12 11:26:00 CEST 2021

On 12.09.2021 11:15, Ingo wrote:

> OK, some do create!
>
> I noticed that some objects (the ones that cause trouble for me) are totally
> missing.
>
> There is e. g. a [mergefilename-help.pd] object but no [mergefilename.pd],
> etc.
> Same thing for splitfilename and stripfilename . . .

Because they are not abstractions, they are external object classes 
contained in the iemlib.pd_linux library.

How do you instantiate these objects? [iemlib/splitfilename] only works 
with the Pd extended version of iemlib, for the "real" iemlib it has to 
be just [splitfilename]. See also my other mail: 
https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2021-09/130022.html

> Others do work - except for the ones that I actually need for starting up my
> patch.
> How can I get these missing files?
>
> Maybe Pd2Ork would be an option to find them . . .
> (Very frustrating!)
>
> Ingo
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ingo [mailto:ingo at miamiwave.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2021 11:04 AM
>> To: 'Christof Ressi'; 'Pd-List'
>> Subject: RE: [PD] external libraries for Raspberry Pi - how to compile?
>>
>> OK,
>>
>> I have downloaded the iemlib from Deken.
>>
>> The iemlib from Deken (iemlib[v1.22] (Linux-armv7-32).dek is in one single
>> folder called "iemlib".
>> The file "iemlib.pd_linux" is inside of the folder.
>>
>> I have tried these options:
>>
>> [declare -lib iemlib]
>> [declare -lib iemlib -path iemlib]
>> [declare -lib iemlib -path /usr/lib/puredata/extra/iemlib]
>>
>> [declare -path iemlib]
>> [declare -path /usr/lib/puredata/extra/iemlib]
>>
>> Still none of the objects create.
>> What would be the correct way to declare the library?
>>
>> What am I doing wrong?
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Ingo
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ingo [mailto:ingo at miamiwave.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2021 10:20 AM
>>> To: 'Christof Ressi'; 'Pd-List'
>>> Subject: RE: [PD] external libraries for Raspberry Pi - how to compile?
>>>
>>> What if all .pd_linux files are missing?
>>> Where can I get them if not by downloading?
>>>
>>> Maybe by downloading and compiling the source - but I don't find
>>> instructions for that either . . .   :-(
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces at lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of
>>>> Christof Ressi
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2021 10:15 AM
>>>> To: Pd-List
>>>> Subject: Re: [PD] external libraries for Raspberry Pi - how to
> compile?
>>>> I'm 100% sure that this is just a matter of correctly loading
>>>> iemlib, see my other post. Other people have been using iemlib on
>>>> the RPi without problems.
>>>>
>>>> Don't worry :-)
>>>>
>>>> On 12.09.2021 03:36, Ingo wrote:
>>>>> I'm aware of the fact that pretty much anything can be replaced.
>>>>> For compatibility reasons I have to stick with Pd 0.49, though . . .
>>>>>
>>>>> My dilemma is that I have written over 13 years on this software.
>>>>> It's
>>> huge.
>>>>> Finding and replacing all objects that don't work anymore will
>>>>> take me at least several months doing nothing else.
>>>>> Without iemlib and iemgui working nothing even loads for starting
>>>>> up the software.
>>>>> This stuff had been written more than 10 years ago and I used
>>>>> whatever was working at this time.
>>>>>
>>>>> The very first errors I get are
>>>>>
>>>>> iemlib/splitfilename
>>>>> couldn't create
>>>>>
>>>>> mergefilename
>>>>> ... couldn't create
>>>>>
>>>>> Then loading stops already at less than 1% of the software being
>> loaded.
>>>>> If I don't get any further I'm stuck. iemlib objects are all over
>>>>> the software with thousands of abstractions.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I install iemlib with "apt-get install pd-iemlib" it installs
>>>>> that patches and help files but all the .pd_linux files are missing.
>>>>> Same thing with Deken. So, none of the objects are created.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The only way to get this running is by compiling the last non
>>>>> working libraries - mainly iemlib for now to get some loading at
> all.
>>>>> Then I can go ahead and replace or fix things.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I have never compiled any libraries before - I don't even
>>>>> know whether iemlib can be compiled on the RPi at all.
>>>>> Should be possible, though since there is a version on Deken - it
>>>>> just doesn't work here.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a brand-new operating system and I don't know which softwares
>>>>> to install for compiling and there are next to zero instructions
>>>>> on the iemlib source code.
>>>>>
>>>>> I cannot find any detailed and - more important - complete
>>>>> instructions for generally compiling libraries.
>>>>> All instructions assume that I already know how to compile
>>>>> libraries and that I have installed all needed software.
>>>>> But it's a brand new system with NOTHING is installed.
>>>>> And even worse I have no idea what to do if anything goes wrong or
>>>>> if nothing at all happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> If someone can point me to general instruction or a compiled
>>>>> version of iemlib for the RPi I'd be extremely grateful !
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Ingo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces at lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> oliver at klingt.org
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 3:39 PM
>>>>>> To: pd-list at lists.iem.at
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PD] external libraries for Raspberry Pi - how to
> compile?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 11. September 2021 15:12:04 MESZ schrieb Ingo
>>>>>> <ingo at miamiwave.com>:
>>>>>>> Thanks, IOhannes!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using apt-get took care of most except for iemgui, moocow and
>> toxy.
>>>>>> What exact objects do you need from those ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> iemlib is as always incomplete!
>>>>>> That's strange. I recall it being complete the last time i used a
> Pi...
>>>>>> I. e. some objects don?t create like e.g.
>>>>>>> [mergefilename], [stripfilename], [splitfilename], etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> With recent PD versions you don't need an object like
>>>>>> [mergefilename] anymore. You can do basically anything with
>>>>>> simple combinations of [symbol] [pack] [list] and messages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also have a look at the HCS library. That should cover your needs !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oliver
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gesendet von meiner Gurkn
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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