[PD] Preset management for Pd Vanilla

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Or yet a new functionality for [pdcontrol] if not in [send] or a whole new
object

On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 at 16:08 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Else’s has morphing, interpolation, etc and is an abstraction that uses
> [savestate] and [text] mainly.
>
> It also relies on an external, [retrieve], similar to [grab] from MAX.
> This one gets data from objects connected to named [receive] objects. One
> could make a vanilla version without it, but it’d be much more complicated.
> Or we could have a new [grab] / [retrieve] like object in Vanilla, and I
> could build a Vanilla external abstraction and bring my system to vanilla
> like that.
>
> We maybe don’t even need a new object and could have something like an
> extra functionality in [send] where it can get things back. I think some
> net objects work like that and it would hopefully not be too weird or
> crazy, and maybe people would likewise abuse this for other use cases.
>
> Seems like a very not much intrusive addition that opens the door for
> this. What do you people think?
>
> Cheers
>
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 at 08:39 KHM t.hartmann <t.hartmann at khm.de> wrote:
>
>> +1 as well, for a native preset system.
>> Best would be the possibility for interpolation between values in various
>> ways, from jump to customisable interpolation curves.
>>
>>
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>> Am 11.11.2023 um 12:02 schrieb hans w. koch <hansw.koch at gmail.com>:
>>
>> +1 for a native preset system. thats the one thing i miss thinking back
>> of the times i used max/msp (particularily the morphing feature).
>>
>>
>> advantage over else: it can then be used in PdParty e.g. :-)
>>
>> cheers
>> hans
>>
>> Am 11.11.2023 um 06:47 schrieb Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com
>> >:
>>
>>
>> I'm revisiting this. I'm proud of my presets system in ELSE but I think
>> Pd needs something natively. What do you people think and say?
>>
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>> Em sex., 22 de jan. de 2021 às 14:27, Alexandre Torres Porres <
>> porres at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>
>> Em sex., 22 de jan. de 2021 às 01:35, Alexandre Torres Porres <
>> porres at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>
>> There's the "morphing" or "interpolation" thing that I may be still
>> neglecting and thinking that using things "line" objects is just as fine,
>> but let's see. I'll also look into how max does interpolation, someone
>> already told me that, I think I have an idea for that too.
>>
>>
>> I neglected the fact that [line] doesn't work with lists :) so I created
>> an object that does it called [morph]. Hence, this takes care of preset
>> transitions. I don't think it's necessary to put this feature inside the
>> preset object as it makes it more complicated and in the end it's good this
>> is a separate object as it's also useful outside the preset system and can
>> be used on its own to morph into different arrays and stuff.
>>
>>
>> I'm doing something similar for interpolation, with another object to
>> allow one to manually interpolate between values and lists of values, also
>> incorporating that feature from Max. This should all be up in my repository
>> this weeked.
>>
>>
>> cheers
>>
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