[PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:

> 
> Sadly it's too late to include Xth Sense to Pd-ext, I already ask for
> the inclusion of PdMtl and Mtl Abstraction in the next Pd-ext (0.43).
> 
> 
> ooh :/
> wow, PdMtl is out there since ages... 
> I always thought why it is not yet included. 

One showstopper is that it relies on objects that are not included in Pd-extended (pool, last I checked).  But mostly its because there has never been a proper versioned release. 


> Quoting Hans
> "
> ...
> I think its too late for 0.43, but 0.44 is definitely possible.  With
> much less work, we can make it easy for people to find and install
> themselves, and that takes effect once you do it. Only one small thing
> has been added since November, so its in feature freeze.
> 
> 
> I see, fair enough. But why it is such a hassle?
> If the library is ready according to the community guidelines, is it still a pain to include it?

People have come to expect quite a bit of consistency with libraries in Pd-extended, and this consistency is cross-platform.  Indeed this is a core goal of Pd-extended.  That means that new libraries need to be checked so that they are known to work the same across all platforms that Pd-extended supports.  It also means that every object included in Pd-extended will work with only Pd-extended, no external libraries required.  And it means that every object has its own help patch, and so on, and so forth.

If you think that getting into Debian/testing is hard, that is easier than it seems.  The library template takes care of that for you, and I'm happy to sponsor/upload/maintain in Debian any Pd library that is based on the Library Template.


> - Having it on github will make that a easier too.  You don't need to
> make release tarballs, for example, you can just tag a release in git,
> ie "git tag v0.1", then github makes a link to a downloadable tarball.
> 
> 
> Xth Sense is happily on github already.
> 
>  
> - adding it to the puredata.info/downloads section will make it easy for
> people to find
> 
> - and making sure it works fine when you drop it into ~/pd-externals,
> ~/Library/Pd, etc.
> 
> did that to facilitate installation process during my workshop.
> Will add it to downloads when it will be ready.


Tag a release, and github will make a download link for you.  Then you can add that to the downloads page.

.hc

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