[PD] Apply missing

[Ivica Bukvic]

On Feb 2, 2013 8:38 PM, "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <hans at at.or.at> wrote:
>
> On 02/02/2013 02:06 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Max <abonnements at revolwear.com>
> >> To: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
> >> Cc: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>; PD list <pd-list at iem.at>
> >> Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 1:32 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [PD] Apply missing
> >>
> >> Am 27.01.2012 um 17:39 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>:
> >>>  On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>  From: Max <abonnements at revolwear.com>
> >>>>>  Am 27.01.2012 um 02:50 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
> >>>>>>  On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 22:51 +0100, Max wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  i noticed that in the current autobuilds of Pd-extended the
> >> property
> >>>>>  dialogs for the gui-objects are missing the Apply-Button. Is that a
> >> bug or a
> >>>>>  feature?
> >>>>>>>  IMHO this is a bug - if you want to adjust for instance a
> >> canvas to be
> >>>>>  the same size as another object of unknown size you can do that
> >> with a few
> >>>>>  clicks and the help of the Apply button. If you have to click OK
> >> and then go to
> >>>>>  context menu->Properties, set the size, OK repeately to do that
> >> it's
> >>>>>  simply annoying.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>  That seems like a good enough reason, I brought back the Apply
> >> button to
> >>>>>>  the iemgui Properties panel on Mac OS X.  It was originally
> >> moved since
> >>>>>>  the whole "OK, Apply, Cancel" is very Windows-like,
> >> but there
> >>>>>  isn't an
> >>>>>>  easy way to make to work better, so the Apply button is back.
> >> IMHO,
> >>>>>>  when you change the setting, it should take effect immediately.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  great. i agree that ideally i'd like to be able to see that
> >> change happen
> >>>>>  immediately. even better: when grabbing the bottom-right corner
> >> i'd have an
> >>>>>  anchor to scale the object (see Max/MSP for that)…
> >>>>
> >>>>  Also see: pd-l2ork
> >>>
> >>>  I think you are referring to Ico trying to make the iemguis
resizable live
> >> with a handle.  I should finally get to releasing something useful
form the
> >> tkwidgets lib, since that also includes resizing with a handle.
> >>
> >> I just had another Idea how to solve this: Two buttons: Cancel and OK
when you
> >> change some properties in the Dialog the OK Button becomes labeled
Apply. If
> >> clicked on Apply, the new properties are applied and the Button
becomes labeled
> >> OK. If you click OK the Dialog is closed.
> >> That way a double click on Apply will apply and close the dialog.
> >
> > That would double the number of clicks for users who never want to use
> > Apply.
>
> I think that we should avoid patch fixes and do the right thing.  I think
we
> should follow the example of Pd itself, but then also GNOME and Mac OS X
> preferences: changes should take effect immediately without having to hit
> apply or OK.  Then there should be unlimited undo for returning to
previous
> states.  The first part o that is not hard, the second part is.  But since
> unlimited undo is working in some parts of pd-l2ork, we at least have a
> working example to draw from.

What do you mean by "in some parts?" Can you give an example of where it
does not work?

>
> hc
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