[PD] Catalina makes Pd take too long to load externals? + Other annoyances.

Christof Ressi info at christofressi.com
Fri May 29 10:42:06 CEST 2020

> Not sure if this is a Pd thing or just something stupid that macOS now 
> does for ALL applications. 

Welcome to macOS Catalina :-)


On 29.05.2020 03:16, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> Hey macOS/Catalina people (do we have any here?), I formatted my 
> computer and decided to install Catalina just to test things and now I 
> can't go back. I was forced to stay in the latest release because I 
> can't install XCode from app store in the previous OS, it has to be 
> Catalina... Miller is right to hate mac and windows force pushing 
> upgrades <3 - I might still try to go back and install XCode somehow 
> cause I'm starting to hate a few things - enough ranting!
> Anyway, I already opened an issue that seems to affect Catalina - 
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/988 - but for that 
> tcl/tk might be the one to hate for. As long as we're at it, do other 
> Catalina users have the same issue there?
> *Now for the actual subject of the email. I'm finding that externals 
> in Catalina are taking too long to load. Anyone else feels that? It's 
> kind of intermittent. Sometimes it does that, sometimes not... it's 
> happening for me in Pd 0.50-2 and the new 0.51-0-test1 as well.*
> *
> *
> As for yet another annoyance, Catalina will now say it can't open Pd 
> right out of the box when you download, and it'll even ask you if you 
> want to delete. It does this even if you right click and ask to open 
> it. Previously, you had to right click and ask to open so it would 
> give you an option "do you really want to open this?". Now it just 
> says something like
> "“Pd-0.50-2” cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified.
> macOS cannot verify that this app is free from malware.
> Chrome downloaded this file today at 22:05 from msp.ucsd.edu 
> <http://msp.ucsd.edu>."
> It's only when you say cancel and try that for a SECOND time is that 
> if offers you the possibility to open if you really really want it and 
> changes the warning to *macOS cannot verify the developer of 
> “Pd-0.50-2”. Are you sure you want to open it?*. Not sure if this is a 
> Pd thing or just something stupid that macOS now does for ALL 
> applications.
> cheers
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